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Vigor 120 firmware?
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25 Feb 2010 14:28 #60780
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You seem to have a rather defensive agenda. The statement on the Vigor 120 maybe clear with hindsight but it's not a substitute for a user manual. If the website stated that the UK model does not have the same functionality as the worldwide version and also had a dedicated UK manual then your slightly chippy response might be more justified. As it does not, what's you point?
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No datasheet or user manual was available on UK sitejaras123 wrote:
So you looked on the UK website (to discover that there wasn’t a datasheet or user manual) and didn't see the opening sentence on the product page?
Out of curiosity, where did you buy your Vigor120?
You seem to have a rather defensive agenda. The statement on the Vigor 120 maybe clear with hindsight but it's not a substitute for a user manual. If the website stated that the UK model does not have the same functionality as the worldwide version and also had a dedicated UK manual then your slightly chippy response might be more justified. As it does not, what's you point?
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25 Feb 2010 15:39 #60781
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No agenda
My point is, of all the UK resellers I've seen, on their websites, they all state that it's a modem and not a router. So it's not with hindsight, it's something I checked out before I bought mine.
However; I would agree that the manual is misleading in its European Community Declaration.
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You seem to have a rather defensive agenda.redleader wrote:
No agenda
The statement on the Vigor 120 maybe clear with hindsight but it's not a substitute for a user manual. If the website stated that the UK model does not have the same functionality as the worldwide version and also had a dedicated UK manual then your slightly chippy response might be more justified. As it does not, what's you point?redleader wrote:
My point is, of all the UK resellers I've seen, on their websites, they all state that it's a modem and not a router. So it's not with hindsight, it's something I checked out before I bought mine.
However; I would agree that the manual is misleading in its European Community Declaration.
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25 Feb 2010 17:00 #60783
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Although I WAS aware of exactly what I was buying at the time, it is in fact VERY unclear when the only downloadable manual for this exact product states QUITE CLEARLY it is a fully functional router with (as I have already mentioned) instructions with illustrations about setting up NAT and the firewall. If that isn't misleading I don't know what is, so IMO it's a bit rich to start expounding on here about how clear it is.
I have circumvented the problem buy installing a Vigor 2820, although at more than twice the price of the 120. However, it is obviously a far more capable router in all respects and so far has been 100%.
I do think the 120 is a marvellous product that uniquely offers the ability to bridge PPPoA and PPPoE, but in the end I went a different route (through no fault of the Vigor). However, Draytek should be much clearer with regard to what products they are offering, where and in what specification.
I have circumvented the problem buy installing a Vigor 2820, although at more than twice the price of the 120. However, it is obviously a far more capable router in all respects and so far has been 100%.
I do think the 120 is a marvellous product that uniquely offers the ability to bridge PPPoA and PPPoE, but in the end I went a different route (through no fault of the Vigor). However, Draytek should be much clearer with regard to what products they are offering, where and in what specification.
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25 Feb 2010 17:42 #60785
by jaras123
I always trust documentation on first place. Opening sentence you mentioned and documentation from the global site are contradictory. As there was no specific documentation for UK version I trusted this one I found and took Draytek UK statement for granted. There isn't many devices available which could work as simply as ADSL modem, most of them are obsolete. So I thought this piece of hardware is marketed as the only modern one able to work both as router or modem.
I bought my device from dabs.com, they simply copied all the product description from Draytek UK site. I guess, other distributors do the same. It means nothing to me, description is not documentation.
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anyoldname wrote:
No datasheet or user manual was available on UK sitejaras123 wrote:
So you looked on the UK website (to discover that there wasn’t a datasheet or user manual) and didn't see the opening sentence on the product page?
Out of curiosity, where did you buy your Vigor120?
I always trust documentation on first place. Opening sentence you mentioned and documentation from the global site are contradictory. As there was no specific documentation for UK version I trusted this one I found and took Draytek UK statement for granted. There isn't many devices available which could work as simply as ADSL modem, most of them are obsolete. So I thought this piece of hardware is marketed as the only modern one able to work both as router or modem.
I bought my device from dabs.com, they simply copied all the product description from Draytek UK site. I guess, other distributors do the same. It means nothing to me, description is not documentation.
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