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Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn

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09 Jun 2011 21:27 #68187 by vmrsss
Replied by vmrsss on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
i've got exactly the same configuration, precisely. apart for the static routes, which haven't helped... so WTH...

and how do you configure your static IP machines?

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09 Jun 2011 21:39 #68188 by know-dice
Replied by know-dice on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
Click here Prontonet - you need to use Internet Explorer because this device uses active-X for its web interface.

Then click on Control (no password) then Config and LAN

This is an IP codec that is on test....

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10 Jun 2011 09:20 #68195 by vmrsss
Replied by vmrsss on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
know-dice, all the parameters are the same, so either my router is broken (which would seem unlikely, what kind of fault is that?) or there is something in the interplay with the zyxel modem.

Now you have the BT FTTC router, IIRC, when you had the zyxel did you use the same configuration for the 2130? You didnt had in bridge mode, but where were the fixed IP machines connected to? zyxel or 2130? and what was your MTU and LLC/VC stuff? I don't really think this can have the effect I am experiencing, but I am seriously running out of things to try...

PS. Perhaps we should continue this conversation privately, it's probably becoming very uninteresting for the forum....

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10 Jun 2011 16:08 #68204 by know-dice
Replied by know-dice on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
Ok.

Send an email to edited@edited as pm doesn't seem to work on here.... :cry:

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10 Jun 2011 19:01 #68208 by vmrsss
Replied by vmrsss on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
thx. I sent a message to DrayTek UK tech support, I start to think there is something wrong with my hardware. The configuration seems alright, just like yours, yet it doesn't work in the most basic way: from a machine with static IP, I cannot even ping the router! That cannot be...

I logged in to the 2130, it's just a linux box, inspected the ARP table, there is no trace of anything but the IPs the 2130 has served itself...

I'll keep you informed.

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13 Jun 2011 10:29 #68225 by vmrsss
Replied by vmrsss on topic Re: Help with NAT / non NAT on 2130Vn
Hi there. This seems to be solved. For future memory of the forum, the problem was that I listed the private IPs I wanted the router to route (viz 81.XXX.YYY.97 etc) as WAN IP aliases (in the list at WAN >> Internet Access >> WAN IP Aliases), and this prevented the router to route for them. Having removed that alias list, the rest of the configuration was spot on.

I discovered this accidentally, going through my IPs and noticing that some would work and some would not. I confirmed them with DrayTek's UK technical support. Here is their explanation:

WAN IP Aliases, that's a separate function from IP routing and IP
aliases over-ride IP routing.

IP routing is used when you want to assign the IP address directly to
a device behind the router, which avoids any NAT from the router.

WAN IP Alias is used when the device has an internal NATted address
and you want to use those additional addresses for DMZ / port
forwarding purposes.

The reason that you couldn't ping from .98 with that IP as an IP alias
is because the router would not consider that address to be available
in the pool of IP routed addresses as it is already assigned using IP
alias.



Thanks to know-dice for the help and to everybody else for bearing
with me.

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